smacks wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:33 pm
I went the Q4 like Saeb as well. While i haven't yet made the plunge to BPT's system, I've also started thinking similar to Stu.
The UniChip is good, in fact it's great.
But like Stu said, it becomes complicated when ECU updates are performed
It doesn't provide any TCU adjustability
And i'm 100% convinced that the car doesn't know it's real fuel usage. (Although I've been told by tuners that it does... i'm just not convinced that their claim is correct)
I seriously want the TCU tune, it's something I've been looking at for a couple of years. And BPT are the only ones that have recently come to the market with a solution in Aus. Before the solution even existed I felt it was something that was needed, and having spoken to the BPT guys, it sounds like an awesome adjustment. (They are extremely accommodating and easy to talk to which is a plus)
You are 100% convincingly correct. Intercepting anything will always make something think it is doing something it really isn't so no your DTE will never be correct.
You could always get the ngauge and just do the TCM tune at the moment then purchase the PCM tune at a later date. It will be doubtful that the ngauge will come to other aus tuners at the moment due to contractual obligations.
Re: Tomorrow, Unichip Q4
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:43 pm
by Pitt22
Thanks Stewart. Nguage should be here next week. Their release video sealed the deal. On an honest looking dyno it produced 21kw gain at the fly but circa 150nm more torque at 2000rpm averaging out to about 90nm. Looking forward to it.
Re: Tomorrow, Unichip Q4
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:46 am
by Pitt22
Nguage arrived and Installed. Bit of a weapon now. The responsiveness early on is the biggest thing I've noticed. Bit more boogie towing too.
I probably won't keep it mounted but the scanning ability is handy. Open glow plug circuits on 2 and 4. News to me!
Re: Tomorrow, Unichip Q4
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:40 am
by diomac
Received my Ngauge yesterday as well, and man what a difference it makes to the manual gearbox as well. It pulls nicely in 2nd gear now where it has always been a dog. Only used the stage 1 tune and it's very smooth, not aggro at all. Really happy with it.
Re: Tomorrow, Unichip Q4
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:11 am
by paramidget
I'm really leaning toward the NGuage as well. One question, can you disconnect the NGuage and still have the tune?
Re: Tomorrow, Unichip Q4
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:23 am
by RossPat
paramidget wrote: ↑Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:11 am
can you disconnect the NGuage and still have the tune?
Yes, once you do a flash the ngauge can be disconnected.
It only needs to be left connected if you want to monitor.
Re: Tomorrow, Unichip Q4
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:40 am
by paramidget
Thanks bloke. I use an ultraguage but I'll re-assess that when I get the Nguage.
Re: Tomorrow, Unichip Q4
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:12 am
by paramidget
I bit the bullet! Bought the Nguage yesterday with a good discount for being on this forum!
Re: Tomorrow, Unichip Q4
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:14 am
by paramidget
diomac wrote: ↑Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:40 am
Received my Ngauge yesterday as well, and man what a difference it makes to the manual gearbox as well. It pulls nicely in 2nd gear now where it has always been a dog. Only used the stage 1 tune and it's very smooth, not aggro at all. Really happy with it.
That's the main reason for my purchase. The torque limits on the manual box suck big time.
Re: Tomorrow, Unichip Q4
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:20 pm
by Goochie
Why did I have to look at this thread..... there I was thinking I'd leave the tune alone but now I've seen mention of BPT who are just 100m from where I work.
Is their tune "undetectable" by Ford? My vehicle is still under warranty.
*Must resist*
Re: Tomorrow, Unichip Q4
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:59 pm
by RossPat
Goochie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:20 pm
Why did I have to look at this thread..... there I was thinking I'd leave the tune alone but now I've seen mention of BPT who are just 100m from where I work.
Is their tune "undetectable" by Ford? My vehicle is still under warranty.
*Must resist*
Ford can see the changes if they look.
You get a stock map with the ngauge so if you have flashed it with a modded map, just flash it with the stock map before you take it to the dealer, then reflash it again.
Re: Tomorrow, Unichip Q4
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:43 pm
by saeb
Seriously, the local dealer does not have anything hardware or software that can see any change with the PCM. They could see the calibration level and that is all.
All they could do if they need to diagnose is flash the standard calibration again and still would not know the difference.
It will come down to the tune but tuners base their changes on existing calibration files so when these are flashed they still display as a standard calibration file name.
I would not and will not revert to a stock tune before taking the vehicle to Ford for anything.
Re: Tomorrow, Unichip Q4
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:58 pm
by RossPat
That's good then, the video on the site suggests what I posted but I would prefer not to flash and reflash.
Definitely on my wish list.
Re: Tomorrow, Unichip Q4
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:56 pm
by saeb
The big thing at the end of the day is if someone is concerned about warranty and cannot get this out of their mind, then just don't do.
I had 4 warranty claims while I either had the Unichip on or a flash but none of the issue were caused by this so there was no issues with warranty.
I think I made a post a while back which states I would rather tune it in warranty and have the best of both worlds.
The first line above still applies, do I jump off the cliff or don't I? What makes you feel more settled in your own mind at the end of the day. Follow your gut.
Re: Tomorrow, Unichip Q4
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 8:42 am
by Goochie
Next question for those with an opinion - Would a remap make a catch can and/or EGR restriction/blank more or less necessary?
Re: Tomorrow, Unichip Q4
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 8:57 am
by allover
ngauge youtube clip, good watch
Re: Tomorrow, Unichip Q4
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:06 am
by RossPat
Goochie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 8:42 am
Next question for those with an opinion - Would a remap make a catch can and/or EGR restriction/blank more or less necessary?
I think it will not alter anything.
If your motor is a breather it's not going to alter it in any way, if you drive it the same.
More power and you drive it harder my change that.
All motors are different and I have seen some catch cans with a lot of sludge in them only after 10,000 klms.
I have seen others with nothing after 25,000 klms.
These are production engines and the +/- tolerances might not be what we would like.
Goochie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 8:42 am
Next question for those with an opinion - Would a remap make a catch can and/or EGR restriction/blank more or less necessary?
I think it will not alter anything.
If your motor is a breather it's not going to alter it in any way, if you drive it the same.
More power and you drive it harder my change that.
All motors are different and I have seen some catch cans with a lot of sludge in them only after 10,000 klms.
I have seen others with nothing after 25,000 klms.
These are production engines and the +/- tolerances might not be what we would like.
I dont have a catch can on my Ranger (9000km from new) and I'm sitting on the fence on catch cans. There are many Rangers out there with 100k+ km that dont have them and there are others that have failed before that. Would a catch can have prevented a particular failure? Is the catch can a perfect example of heard mentality lead by social media? Can I just let the engine breath into the chassis frame? Do I leave it alone?
Who really knows!?
Re: Tomorrow, Unichip Q4
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:43 pm
by RossPat
If you have seen the damage caused by all the gunk getting sucked into the cylinder head then a catch can is cheap insurance.
The cost of repairs is high.
Fitted from new is a good idea, after all what's another $300 on top of $60k.
A catch can will help prevent failures and expensive repairs.
If you have an engine with mimimal blow-by then a catch can would do little, but as engines wear blow-by increases.
Re: Tomorrow, Unichip Q4
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 3:25 am
by jstanovic
Goochie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 8:42 am
Next question for those with an opinion - Would a remap make a catch can and/or EGR restriction/blank more or less necessary?
I recently had a retune and they also turned off the EGR so no need for a blocking plate.
Re: Tomorrow, Unichip Q4
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 3:23 pm
by RossPat
Anyone considering one of these should think about purchasing now as Barry is giving members of this Forum a big discount.
There is one problem though, he is out of stock and not really sure when the new stock will arrive.
Delays are being caused by the big freeze in the USA.
Re: Tomorrow, Unichip Q4
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:13 am
by diomac
If you are a club member its $100 off.
Re: Tomorrow, Unichip Q4
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:14 pm
by RossPat
Mine arrived today but haven't driven it much but there is a definate difference for the better.
Forum members will pay $1322 delivered until this coming Friday, 15/2/19
Re: Tomorrow, Unichip Q4
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:48 am
by RossPat
I have been told that it is highly unlikely there will be any more PCM updates by Ford.
Correct or not, no idea.
The PX2 has run its 4 year cycle as is shown when using ForScan and the info displayed says 2015 even if you have a 2018 model.
Re: Tomorrow, Unichip Q4
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:18 pm
by RossPat
Still haven't used the car a lot but when I did I found this great for overtaking.