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Xlt head light put on xls

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 8:48 pm
by Saundersraymond
Hey guys has anyone put xlt headlights on a xls.Are they plug and play.Wanting drls on the xls

Re: Xlt head light put on xls

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:15 pm
by saeb
If pre MY20.25 PX3 lights then they are HIDs and will require external relays to operate correctly or risk over loading the BCM which they 100% do.

If MY20.25 lights then they are LED and will plug in and work correctly. Note that DRLs run of the Parker circuit if retrofitted to pre PX3 vehicle unless wired otherwise.

Re: Xlt head light put on xls

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:41 pm
by Scott1234
is there a write up on installing the hid lights in a px2 wildtrak?

Re: Xlt head light put on xls

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 7:15 pm
by Scott1234
can i just use the power feed for the lowbeam to the relay? is there a ignigtion power source in the fuse box for the relay power? and a relay for each side? headlight earths can stay factory?
thanks

Re: Xlt head light put on xls

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:09 am
by kfa1950
Use low beam plug and connect to relay, pins 85 & 86.
Connect relay pin 30 directly to battery + via a fuse.
Connect earth from hid to chassis earth point next to battery.
Relay Pin 87 to hid.

Re: Xlt head light put on xls

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:36 am
by Scott1234
Thanks heaps for your help. Lucky I found this or I would have blown the ecu for sure lol

Re: Xlt head light put on xls

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:36 pm
by Scott1234
Ohk so lights in and hids are on relays and are working perfectly.
I disabled low beam detection in forscan.
But now my day runners don't work they do flicker tho. I couldn't find a setting in forscan for them? I was thinking of adding some load to the day runners circuit...

Re: Xlt head light put on xls

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 6:17 am
by Scott1234
I have noticed I still get a fault code for low beams even with low beam detection turned off. Will it be ok to run them like this ?

Re: Xlt head light put on xls

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 6:59 am
by kfa1950
I have had relays on low and high beams for 3 years, no problems. BCM only providing minimal current to operate relays.

Re: Xlt head light put on xls

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 7:05 am
by Scott1234
I was reading that after the bcm records a certain amount of faults it can crap itself

Re: Xlt head light put on xls

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 7:12 am
by kfa1950
Only when excess current from BCM. So many resets then new BCM. HID's fitted without relays have an initial high current to ignite the gas, BCM does not take to kindly it. [emoji106]

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Re: Xlt head light put on xls

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 8:49 am
by Scott1234
Ohk sweet I've sorted the low beam fault codes now anyway. Only problem i have now is the day runners work fine with engine off, but when engine is running they flicker and cut out ? I have faults for them also.

Re: Xlt head light put on xls

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 4:53 am
by Davikl
Scott1234 wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 8:49 am Ohk sweet I've sorted the low beam fault codes now anyway. Only problem i have now is the day runners work fine with engine off, but when engine is running they flicker and cut out ? I have faults for them also.
Hi Scott,

have you sorted the flickering of your DRLs?
I'm planning to jump into HID on mine, and I'm just studying how to proper wire everything together.
It's a 2017 Brazilian version, with projectors and halogen bulbs.

Re: Xlt head light put on xls

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 5:21 pm
by fordboyz
saeb wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:15 pm If pre MY20.25 PX3 lights then they are HIDs and will require external relays to operate correctly or risk over loading the BCM which they 100% do.

If MY20.25 lights then they are LED and will plug in and work correctly. Note that DRLs run of the Parker circuit if retrofitted to pre PX3 vehicle unless wired otherwise.
hi I have the full led type in a late 17 xlt, the drl is only half as bright as it should be, also the led part in the headlight up top closest to the grill which activates on high beam on the latest trucks does not work. Do I need to update or upgrade bcm or is there some wiring I need to modify? not really to worried about the high beam part but the dull drls is rather annoying - sometimes they go bright but not sure when - very rarely. running and in drive doesnt get brighter as they should. adjusted lots in Forscan but can never get it right.

Appreciate your time if you have any ideas or suggestions

Cheers - Colin

Re: Xlt head light put on xls

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:55 pm
by saeb
Have nothing to look at to confirm anything. Assumption will be that DRL are currently running through the Parker circuit and not the DRL circuit as I doubt the wiring is there.

If through Parker circuit then you will not have much control over them.

Re: Xlt head light put on xls

Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 4:46 am
by stu77art
Hi, I have the same issue with the DRLs not working on mine, Installed the Bi-LED lights to a 2017 wildtrak, the high and dipped beams seem to work ok, but the DRLs only works for a few seconds flicker then go out. If the engine isn't running then the DRLs work fine. Someone suggested that it may be that the voltage supplied to the DRLs may change to PWM when engine is running to help prolong bulb life and the use of a capacitor to make the voltage constant my sort this, however I've not as yet been able to make that work. Has anyone actually managed to sort this and what is the Parker circuit? Apologies if that's a stupid question. TIA

Re: Xlt head light put on xls

Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 7:46 pm
by Ajay_01
saeb wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:15 pm If pre MY20.25 PX3 lights then they are HIDs and will require external relays to operate correctly or risk over loading the BCM which they 100% do.

If MY20.25 lights then they are LED and will plug in and work correctly. Note that DRLs run of the Parker circuit if retrofitted to pre PX3 vehicle unless wired otherwise.
Hey Stewart
So does this mean 2020.25 DRLs (xlt or wildrak lights) can be installed on 2020.25 xls without issues. If not could you point me in the right direction to the process involved.
Any help is much appreciated. Thanks

Re: Xlt head light put on xls

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 2:42 pm
by saeb
Ajay_01 wrote: Tue Jul 25, 2023 7:46 pm
saeb wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:15 pm If pre MY20.25 PX3 lights then they are HIDs and will require external relays to operate correctly or risk over loading the BCM which they 100% do.

If MY20.25 lights then they are LED and will plug in and work correctly. Note that DRLs run of the Parker circuit if retrofitted to pre PX3 vehicle unless wired otherwise.
Hey Stewart
So does this mean 2020.25 DRLs (xlt or wildrak lights) can be installed on 2020.25 xls without issues. If not could you point me in the right direction to the process involved.
Any help is much appreciated. Thanks
If the wiring is there then it would be straight forward and if not I guess the same will apply as per my previous posts. Programming wise it would be no problem.

Re: Xlt head light put on xls

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 7:41 pm
by Timrog
saeb wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:15 pm If pre MY20.25 PX3 lights then they are HIDs and will require external relays to operate correctly or risk over loading the BCM which they 100% do.

If MY20.25 lights then they are LED and will plug in and work correctly. Note that DRLs run of the Parker circuit if retrofitted to pre PX3 vehicle unless wired otherwise.
Hey mate I’ve spoken to a few auto elecs to get this done as I made the error of installing 2018 raptor lights in my 2020 xls. Are you certain the external relays fix the issue? The guys I spoke to weren’t 100% confident but they aren’t as knowledgeable as yourself when it comes to rangers. Any tips?

Re: Xlt head light put on xls

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 8:09 pm
by saeb
Timrog wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 7:41 pm
saeb wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:15 pm If pre MY20.25 PX3 lights then they are HIDs and will require external relays to operate correctly or risk over loading the BCM which they 100% do.

If MY20.25 lights then they are LED and will plug in and work correctly. Note that DRLs run of the Parker circuit if retrofitted to pre PX3 vehicle unless wired otherwise.
Hey mate I’ve spoken to a few auto elecs to get this done as I made the error of installing 2018 raptor lights in my 2020 xls. Are you certain the external relays fix the issue? The guys I spoke to weren’t 100% confident but they aren’t as knowledgeable as yourself when it comes to rangers. Any tips?
Factory HIDS run through relays in the under bonnet fuse box and the wiring diagrams show this, so based on genuine diagrams there is no reason at all that it won't work. You will still need to do programming changes in the BCM as no load will be detected on the circuit.

Re: Xlt head light put on xls

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 8:13 pm
by Timrog
saeb wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 8:09 pm
Timrog wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 7:41 pm
saeb wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:15 pm If pre MY20.25 PX3 lights then they are HIDs and will require external relays to operate correctly or risk over loading the BCM which they 100% do.

If MY20.25 lights then they are LED and will plug in and work correctly. Note that DRLs run of the Parker circuit if retrofitted to pre PX3 vehicle unless wired otherwise.
Hey mate I’ve spoken to a few auto elecs to get this done as I made the error of installing 2018 raptor lights in my 2020 xls. Are you certain the external relays fix the issue? The guys I spoke to weren’t 100% confident but they aren’t as knowledgeable as yourself when it comes to rangers. Any tips?
Factory HIDS run through relays in the under bonnet fuse box and the wiring diagrams show this, so based on genuine diagrams there is no reason at all that it won't work. You will still need to do programming changes in the BCM as no load will be detected on the circuit.

Legend thankyou

Re: Xlt head light put on xls

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 10:39 am
by Timrog
Factory HIDS run through relays in the under bonnet fuse box and the wiring diagrams show this, so based on genuine diagrams there is no reason at all that it won't work. You will still need to do programming changes in the BCM as no load will be detected on the circuit.
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Stuart Will the BCM programming changes be able to be done by the auto electricians after market scan tool once relays are done or would it need Ford. 😎

Re: Xlt head light put on xls

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 11:19 am
by saeb
There are other threads around on here for programming changes. Forscan will be required so your auto elect is an unknown and no, Ford cannot do it.

Re: Xlt head light put on xls

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 8:35 pm
by Timrog
saeb wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2024 11:19 am There are other threads around on here for programming changes. Forscan will be required so your auto elect is an unknown and no, Ford cannot do it.

Thanks Stewart appreciate the help

I really want to keep these lights in it’s just hard finding the correct info and help in regional vic 👍

Re: Xlt head light put on xls

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 10:40 am
by Timrog
saeb wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2024 11:19 am There are other threads around on here for programming changes. Forscan will be required so your auto elect is an unknown and no, Ford cannot do it.

Is the thread regarding your MY15 to 18 firmware the correct one for me to follow. 2018 HIDS going into 2020 xls. I’m not worried about the DRLs just want the low beam settings working with the relays 🙏🏼