Ranger Mods

Oh, and the alternator amps output PID doesn't work for me.

I've entered in the data exactly as shown in the database.

Any tips on what could be the issue?

Thanks

Those settings are for the 3.2
I had to remove one of the leading ( from the Equation line on one PID, maybe try that
It may not do a thing

Is there a reason there is an "a" in metric units?

Also as Ross said that is a 3.2 PID, so confirm you have a 3.2, if not use the 2.0 PID.

Do any other 7E0 PIDS work with your adaptor?

saeb wrote: ↑Wed Oct 06, 2021 6:52 am Is there a reason there is an "a" in metric units?

I thought that it was the "a" for amps. I'll remove it.

Also as Ross said that is a 3.2 PID, so confirm you have a 3.2, if not use the 2.0 PID.

Do any other 7E0 PIDS work with your adaptor?

Yes, 3.2.

And I don't know about any other 7EO PIDs. This is the first one that I've entered.

I'll go through the list and see what others there are and add them.
Thanks.

Oh, how do you enter negative numbers? This is for the battery charge/discharge one.

Make sure you have 0 "zero" not O

There is no need to enter negative numbers. Enter the PIDs as they are displayed in the calculator.

saeb wrote: ↑Wed Oct 06, 2021 11:21 am Make sure you have 0 "zero" not O

There is no need to enter negative numbers. Enter the PIDs as they are displayed in the calculator.

Yep, double checked. 0, not O.

Oh, the PID database for battery charge/discharge shows a negative value (to indicate discharge).

MIN VALUE MAX VALUE HEADER MODE PID EQUATION UNITS
-100 100 726 22 402B A-126 Ampere

Hi.
I used the pid shown above for trans temp and reads 97 degrees under normal driving conditions which seems high. I found a pid on OBD2 Australia website that I bought the OBD2 sensor from and the calculation is slightly different and temps now read 86 degrees which seems more accurate.

Calculation is ((A*256)+B)/8

There is nothing I can see on their site regarding ((A*256)+B)/8

Either way most of the PIDs on that site are incorrect.

((A*256)+B)*1/16 which is in the my calculator and from valid documentation is correct. ((A*256)+B)*1/16 which is on their site was taken from here anyway.

If you want to use ((A*256)+B)/8 by all means go for it but be aware it is a false reading.

Undertaker.mc wrote: ↑Wed Oct 27, 2021 9:25 am Hi.
I used the pid shown above for trans temp and reads 97 degrees under normal driving conditions which seems high. I found a pid on OBD2 Australia website that I bought the OBD2 sensor from and the calculation is slightly different and temps now read 86 degrees which seems more accurate.

Calculation is ((A*256)+B)/8

97deg normal driving is right.
Depending on the ambient temp it could get hotter than that.
The thermostat opens @ 92 so 97 is feasible
Stop/start and low speeds raise engine & trans temps
86deg is possible if you run a trans cooler & have the thermal bypass done because it removes the hot trans water cooling from the vehicle radiator

So towing the temps would be around the 120 mark? Which would seem to decrease the life of the transmission dramatically I would think.

Hi Stewart.
In regards to the egt11 pid. The note says post turbo. In my 2021 ranger this is showing temps of upto and over 600 degrees whilst driving on a flat freeway with no load. This seems way high. My 4.2 patrol towing my 3 tonne van doesn't reach these sorts of temps going uphill. Is this supposed to be pre turbo maybe? Which would make sense then as the egts would be higher before the turbo.

Undertaker.mc wrote: ↑Fri Oct 29, 2021 8:15 am So towing the temps would be around the 120 mark? Which would seem to decrease the life of the transmission dramatically I would think.

Yes, plenty have seen that temp when towing, even higher.
That's why a trans cooler is fitted along with a thermal bypass.
A trans cooler by itself won't do a lot, it will help you run more consistently, but in the end the thermostat will win.
I have a stock radiator, intercooler, sump etc and my trans temp towing 2.5t @ 100 is 74deg
I have a Territory, same trans as the Ranger but no thermostat, designed for Aussie conditions
Must be a reason Ford leave the thermostat out on rebuilt transmissions.
https://www.colvoss.com.au/blog/2019/12 ... _ykuZPy15A

Undertaker.mc wrote: ↑Fri Oct 29, 2021 8:35 am Hi Stewart.
In regards to the egt11 pid. The note says post turbo. In my 2021 ranger this is showing temps of upto and over 600 degrees whilst driving on a flat freeway with no load. This seems way high. My 4.2 patrol towing my 3 tonne van doesn't reach these sorts of temps going uphill. Is this supposed to be pre turbo maybe? Which would make sense then as the egts would be higher before the turbo.

I use EGT13 and 600+ happens when it is doing a burn
I have never tried the others

Nice work saeb! Thank you.

I'm slowly testing these on my 2018 BT50 3.2 with Torque Pro and a 'no name' adapter.
EGT13 seems to give sensible numbers; i.e. it gets hotter when I drive, and have seen a peak so far of about 650C.

Sadly EGT11 and EGT12 don't return any data on the BT50. Anyone got any ideas?

DoppelBT wrote: ↑Sat Nov 20, 2021 4:25 pm Sadly EGT11 and EGT12 don't return any data on the BT50. Anyone got any ideas?

The post above yours says EGT13 Works

RossPat wrote: ↑Sat Nov 20, 2021 7:29 pm

DoppelBT wrote: ↑Sat Nov 20, 2021 4:25 pm Sadly EGT11 and EGT12 don't return any data on the BT50. Anyone got any ideas?

The post above yours says EGT13 Works

EGT13 works, definitely. I was expecting that EGT11 & EGT12 would also work, or did I misunderstand something?

A BT50 of any year has nothing electrical in common with a Ranger PX2+.

If you find something that works then you are just lucky. If any PIDs are to work then use BT50 or PX1 PIDs.

saeb wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:38 am A BT50 of any year has nothing electrical in common with a Ranger PX2+.

If you find something that works then you are just lucky. If any PIDs are to work then use BT50 or PX1 PIDs.

Thanks for cleaing that up. For reference I was able to track down what looks like a reasonable set for for the BT50: https://www.scangauge.com/x-gauge-comma ... 2l-diesel/

I'm also curious what exactly I was measuring with the 'wrong' EGT13 PID, because the numbers were sensible.

There is nothing to say the EGT13 was not shared between the vehicles, I have no data on a BT50 and do not have a BT50 so cannot confirm anything without plugging into one.

Undertaker.mc wrote: ↑Fri Oct 29, 2021 8:15 am So towing the temps would be around the 120 mark? Which would seem to decrease the life of the transmission dramatically I would think.

I suppose that if you towed full time with it, the extra load on the drive train overall will reduce its life expectancy.

When I had the Jeep the trans temp was in a factory display called EVIC (forget what it stands for). I used it when towing the van. The temps that it reached and what the Ranger reaches using SAEB's calcs are similar, both with the van and without.