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Re: How to Upgrade Sync 2 to Sync 3

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:34 am
by jaygee83
Hi vnhon2,
Firstly, excellent work on the write up - very detailed and helpful! One query I do have, where did you get the harness adapter from as I would like to purchase one? Is there a part number to order?

Cheers,
James
vnhon2 wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:59 pm ==== USB MODULE REPLACEMENT UPDATE ====

Now after unplugging, I plugged my harness adapter into the plug and other end will go into new USB module.

Re: How to Upgrade Sync 2 to Sync 3

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 6:31 pm
by saeb
Sync 3, now updated to 3.0.18025.

Sygic Car Navigation for offline maps now works in applink mode for Android. You will need Andriod Auto off for this to work and phone plugged into the USB hub. These are an alternative to Ford maps in case you have no reception and are usually updated a few times a year.

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Re: How to Upgrade Sync 2 to Sync 3

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 6:32 pm
by saeb
jaygee83 wrote: Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:34 am Hi vnhon2,
Firstly, excellent work on the write up - very detailed and helpful! One query I do have, where did you get the harness adapter from as I would like to purchase one? Is there a part number to order?

Cheers,
James
vnhon2 wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:59 pm ==== USB MODULE REPLACEMENT UPDATE ====

Now after unplugging, I plugged my harness adapter into the plug and other end will go into new USB module.
Flick him a PM, they do work and he does check them. He did have an additional and may still have it.

Re: How to Upgrade Sync 2 to Sync 3

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:06 pm
by vnhon2
Thanks Stew.

PM replied. :)

Re: How to Upgrade Sync 2 to Sync 3

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 7:37 pm
by saeb
End result to this is after the hardware update from Sync2 to Sync3 and then the software update to Version 3, the Ford Owners website now shows my vehicle as having Sync3 installed and up to date. There is no relevance to Sync2 what so ever.

Downloading the latest asbuilt also shows that my asbuilt data has been updated to show the Sync3 for my VIN so if I have any issues in future then I should be covered. Also if a Ford service centre does an update, maps etc, again it will show I'm running Sync3 their end.

What is weird though is that is seems whenever you make a change to the unit is the online asbuilt changes also, so it is sending the data to their server when connected over wifi.

A good result overall.

Re: How to Upgrade Sync 2 to Sync 3

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:28 pm
by vfast
saeb wrote: Sun Mar 25, 2018 7:37 pm

What is weird though is that is seems whenever you make a change to the unit is the online asbuilt changes also, so it is sending the data to their server when connected over wifi.
I mentioned this during my little issue in that my asbuilt from Ford looked wrong. But you somehow had different values for my APIM that I had printed out before contacting you.

Still puzzles me :-(

Re: How to Upgrade Sync 2 to Sync 3

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:44 pm
by saeb
vfast wrote: Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:28 pm
saeb wrote: Sun Mar 25, 2018 7:37 pm

What is weird though is that is seems whenever you make a change to the unit is the online asbuilt changes also, so it is sending the data to their server when connected over wifi.
I mentioned this during my little issue in that my asbuilt from Ford looked wrong. But you somehow had different values for my APIM that I had printed out before contacting you.

Still puzzles me :-(
No idea what happened. I used the latest asbuilt for your vehicle and it sorted it, so don't over think it.

Re: How to Upgrade Sync 2 to Sync 3

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:08 pm
by vfast
Now for more refinement! For an Everest is there a way to enable changing navigation while moving? I think I had this enabled before update but changing it now causes nav fault (after I backed up APIM ;-) ) and had to restore...

Re: How to Upgrade Sync 2 to Sync 3

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:52 pm
by saeb
I have not looked at it further but from anywhere and everywhere I have read it cannot be disabled on Sync3. You can enter a street address while moving I think? but I tend to use google maps or Waze on Android Auto as they are up to date and google can translate my voice properly.

Have a play with voice control as it is a whole lot better on Sync 3 than 2. My vehicle it 2.5 years old and I have only started to use it, you can nearly do everything so give it a try.

Re: How to Upgrade Sync 2 to Sync 3

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 5:07 pm
by jaygee83
Hi Stewart, can any SYNC3 unit be retrofitted to Ranger - As in, can a unit from a Focus or other FORD with SYNC3 be used or does it have to be Ranger to Ranger?
Assuming the above can be done, what about from other countries? Can a SYNC3 unit with GPS from another country be retrofitted and have GPS maps updated to Aus maps?

Cheers,
James

Re: How to Upgrade Sync 2 to Sync 3

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:02 pm
by saeb
I cannot give a 100 percent yes on that. Brackets may be different, but brackets from your existing Sync2 may be able to be used? Apart from the brackets I will say yes, do it.

You would also want to rewrite the whole asbuilt from a Sync3 same model (2, 4 door etc.) Ranger before connecting to any form of wifi and once the change over occurs it will then update Fords server for that system with your VIN.

Do not nuy from other countries. European versions and most likely ours are 64GB, USA 32GB. Nave cannot be added to Non Nan and I doubt you would get maps for Australia anywhere at this point in time.

Re: How to Upgrade Sync 2 to Sync 3

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:23 pm
by dan1481
Great write up and nicely detailed pictures thanks guys. I'm in the process of doing this upgrade to my 2015 XLT ranger and will be getting the screen and apim next week. I am getting one out of a 2017 mustang and was wondering if you knew where I could get the asbuilt data to suit my car and also how to add my VIN into the apim for future updates.
Cheers

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Re: How to Upgrade Sync 2 to Sync 3

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:13 pm
by saeb
dan1481 wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:23 pm Great write up and nicely detailed pictures thanks guys. I'm in the process of doing this upgrade to my 2015 XLT ranger and will be getting the screen and apim next week. I am getting one out of a 2017 mustang and was wondering if you knew where I could get the asbuilt data to suit my car and also how to add my VIN into the apim for future updates.
Cheers

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VIN is pulled from BCM or PCM so will pre fill. Use a 2017 vehicles asbuilt from an XLT and this should be ok for you.

Re: How to Upgrade Sync 2 to Sync 3

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:59 pm
by saeb
Also use this https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/GPS-Antenna ... SwnCFaPZgB GPS antenna. I found some others throw DTC's but this one is error free and works perfectly.

Re: How to Upgrade Sync 2 to Sync 3

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:16 pm
by dan1481
Excellent, thanks a lot for your help I'll order that gps antenna now, I appreciate the assistance.
Cheers

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Re: How to Upgrade Sync 2 to Sync 3

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:11 pm
by dan1481
Success!!!! Everything installed and working great. I just have one question it's still running sync3 v2.2. How do I update it, I have tried over wifi but doesnt seem to pull the data, it just times out. I can't download it manually from ford as it thinks I have sync 2.
Cheers.

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Re: How to Upgrade Sync 2 to Sync 3

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:34 pm
by saeb
Log on to Ford Australia (Owners area, down the bottom). Sign up, add vehicle and follow the upgrade procedure. Before you do this let your new unit connect to the internet through wifi. What this will do is update the owner info from Sync2 to Sync3 for your vehicle or add a vehicle VIN that has Sync3.

If you get stuck I will try and do a how too, but I'm pretty overloaded with work so could not do it until next week.

Re: How to Upgrade Sync 2 to Sync 3

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:26 pm
by GerryP
I updated to version 3 myself a while ago, but today after a dealer service, a screen popped up saying something about a Sync3 update. It disappeared before I had a chance to read it properly, but that annoying wifi notice pop up seems to have gone.

They also said they updated the maps (I did ask if there was an update), but I have no idea f they did or not.

Re: How to Upgrade Sync 2 to Sync 3

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:38 am
by saeb
I think you will find it is trying to do an update that already is on the unit. Personally I would disable auto update again now.

Re: How to Upgrade Sync 2 to Sync 3

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:03 pm
by dan1481
Thanks for the reply. I already have a ford account with the vehicle in there, I have connected the car to wifi and left it for a while and also tried to search for an update but nothing. When I log into ford it still says sync 2, I have created another account and added my car again and still no luck.

A friend of mine has an FX4 can I use his update file or is it vehicle specific.

Thanks again for the on going help.

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Re: How to Upgrade Sync 2 to Sync 3

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:55 am
by saeb
Try after a few days and see. If not add a VIN from the net. Google "Ranger XLT VIN 2017" and add then try. Just don't do the follow up and submit your update as complete unless you change the VIN in the file that is to be re submitted or the owner of that VIN will not be able to update.

All update packages I have seen appear to be the same, there is nothing in them per vehicle as such.

Re: How to Upgrade Sync 2 to Sync 3

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 10:32 pm
by jaygee83
Hi Stewart,

So I've finally managed to get hold of a SYNC 3 system - I'm just waiting on USB hub, USB hub adapter and GPS antenna. I just want to clarify a few things with regards to 'setup' of the SYNC 3 system. The SYNC 3 unit I purchased comes from a Wildtrak.

Do I need to write an entire SYNC 3 asbuilt from a SYNC 3 XLT before connecting to wi-fi? If so, where do I get this asbuilt from?
Based on previous comments, when I do connect to wi-fi Ford system should be updated showing my VIN with SYNC 3? If not, how do I go about having Ford system updated, as I believe I need this updated to download V3.0 from the Ford Owners website?

Cheers,
James

Re: How to Upgrade Sync 2 to Sync 3

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:42 pm
by saeb
jaygee83 wrote: Fri Jun 29, 2018 10:32 pm Hi Stewart,

So I've finally managed to get hold of a SYNC 3 system - I'm just waiting on USB hub, USB hub adapter and GPS antenna. I just want to clarify a few things with regards to 'setup' of the SYNC 3 system. The SYNC 3 unit I purchased comes from a Wildtrak.

Do I need to write an entire SYNC 3 asbuilt from a SYNC 3 XLT before connecting to wi-fi? If so, where do I get this asbuilt from?
Based on previous comments, when I do connect to wi-fi Ford system should be updated showing my VIN with SYNC 3? If not, how do I go about having Ford system updated, as I believe I need this updated to download V3.0 from the Ford Owners website?

Cheers,
James
For you, send me a PM and I will send you a direct download link.

You can change your asbuilt at anytime. Do the normal asbuilt download from motorcraft for a 2017 model VIN, manual/auto etc. and write it to the APIM using Forscan. Google is your friend for VINs "Ranger XLT 2017 VIN" will get you something.

Re: How to Upgrade Sync 2 to Sync 3

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:05 pm
by drew79
saeb wrote: Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:59 pm Also use this https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/GPS-Antenna ... SwnCFaPZgB GPS antenna. I found some others throw DTC's but this one is error free and works perfectly.
I have now tested 2 GPS antennas, currently waiting on this one to arrive and both have thrown a DTC on the APIM with code B119F - GPS Antenna - Circuit Open. Also randomly receive an error on the Sync 3 display showing a Navigation Fault, which eventually clears and the maps display. I presume both of these issues are related to the GPS antennas and I may have to just keep trying until I get a good one. Are these the same symptoms you found with other GPS antennas you tried?

Re: How to Upgrade Sync 2 to Sync 3

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:54 pm
by dan1481
I tried a few different GPS antennas myself which continued to throw errors. Eventually the maps would load and work like normal until you restart and get the error again. I ordered the one Stewart recommended and haven't had an issue yet.

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