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MeerKat wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 11:39 am Ok I tried again could be my fault it hasn't come through or maybe needs to be approved by administration before it's sent to you.
No approval needed. I do not and cannot access them.
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Hey Meetkat, I’m in a similar situation, I have 2019 raptor headlights in my 2015 px2.. the headlights come with the headlight control module (little silver square box) built into the headlight.. do you need a relay to run it ?
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Hi meerkat I'm trying to do the similar thing with putting the px3 headlights into my px2 2017 fx4 ranger everything works except the day lights shut off when the engine is on. Any help on the relays please
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Gavinpx2 wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 9:18 pm Hey Meetkat, I’m in a similar situation, I have 2019 raptor headlights in my 2015 px2.. the headlights come with the headlight control module (little silver square box) built into the headlight.. do you need a relay to run it ?
HID lights will need relays to power them and also changes in the bcm with Forscan.
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Hulk01 wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 6:41 pm Hi meerkat I'm trying to do the similar thing with putting the px3 headlights into my px2 2017 fx4 ranger everything works except the day lights shut off when the engine is on. Any help on the relays please
If the DRL's flicker then go of when engine is running then changes in the bcm with Forscan are needed.
Read back through this post Stewart has answered me with a fix for this problem👍
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Hi everyone.I’ve completed the headlight upgrade with relays and drl pin kit. also made the changes on FORScan and everything works and no headlight flickering.one problem I’m having is when I indicate my drls still stay on and don’t turn off.my new headlights were off a 2019-20 wildtrak.is there any other changes on FORScan than need to be made?
Any help would be appreciated
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Samjess wrote: Sun May 29, 2022 2:44 pm Hi everyone.I’ve completed the headlight upgrade with relays and drl pin kit. also made the changes on FORScan and everything works and no headlight flickering.one problem I’m having is when I indicate my drls still stay on and don’t turn off.my new headlights were off a 2019-20 wildtrak.is there any other changes on FORScan than need to be made?
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BCM - DRL With Turn

726-26-02
xxx0-xxxx-xxxx - Allow
xxx1-xxxx-xxxx - Inhibit
xxx2-xxxx-xxxx - Dim
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THIS SHOULD APPLY TO ALL HID AND LED UPGRADES

I have seen people do some additional changes but after looking through them they disable unrelated items.

If you believe there is an error or omission below, let me know. If all works well then I will do a fresh thread with this information only.


MY19 HID or LED headlights into a vehicle with halogen lights should be as per below.

HID lights should be wired through relays as they used a headlight control module where halogen are wired directly to the BCM. HID may overload this circuit and in case of a fault with the ballast then may take the BCM out with it also.
LEDS should not require relays due to the lower current draw then HID but your mileage may vary. If you see overload DTCs on the circuit then install relays.


Freq Sel
726-26-02
xxxx-xxx0-xxxx


Outage Headlamps - Disable
726-26-02
xxxx-xxxx-x0xx


Outage LowBeam - Disable
726-27-02
xxx0-xxxx-xxxx


Vrms Target Sel
726-29-01
xxxx-xxxx-x1xx
Options 0 to 3 - 0 should be fine


High Beam Open DTC - Disable
726-46-01
xxx0-xxxx-xxxx


Low Beam Open DTC - Disable
726-46-02
x0xx-xxxx-xxxx


Park Lamps Open DTC - Disable
726-47-01
x0xx-xxxx-xxxx




Aditional changes if DRL Pin Kit used for DRLs
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DRL lamp Mask
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DRL lamp - DRL Circuit
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LF DRL Lamp Ckt - Enable
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xxx1-xxxx-xxxx


RF DRL Lamp Ckt - Enable
7266102
xxxx-x1xx-xxxx


DRL With Turn
726-26-02
xxx0-xxxx-xxxx - Allow
xxx1-xxxx-xxxx - Inhibit
xxx2-xxxx-xxxx - Dim
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Thanks Stewart i already tried allow and inhibit but I will try dim tomorrow and other changes that you have stated
Thanks I will let you know how I go.
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Samjess wrote: Sun May 29, 2022 7:34 pm Thanks Stewart i already tried allow and inhibit but I will try dim tomorrow and other changes that you have stated
Thanks I will let you know how I go.
Test the 4 allowable options here

Vrms Target Sel

1 is default for MY19+
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Thanks mate will do.
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Hi Stewart tried changing to dimmed but not allowing me too and also the lamp circuit usage block 726-61-02 not available on my FORScan.made all other changes and still no drl off when blinker is on.
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Also my rear lights stay on now when drls are on.
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PM me saved BCM asbuilt. Will have a look when I get a chance.
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Thanks mate will do
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Hey Saeb,

I am waiting for some aftermarket tailights to arrive, I thought I remember seeing an option in Forscan to enable parklights with DRLs. I might try this to see how the tailights look if they are on with DRLs.

I am wondering if this will cause any damage to the DRL headlights I have installed? since there will be power coming from DRL circuit + Park circuit at the same time. Don't want to risk damaging the headlights.
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GenieMan wrote: Sat Jul 08, 2023 8:16 pm Hey Saeb,

I am waiting for some aftermarket tailights to arrive, I thought I remember seeing an option in Forscan to enable parklights with DRLs. I might try this to see how the tailights look if they are on with DRLs.

I am wondering if this will cause any damage to the DRL headlights I have installed? since there will be power coming from DRL circuit + Park circuit at the same time. Don't want to risk damaging the headlights.
Totally different circuit. It's just parkers on with DRLS which I enable for client quiet frequently.
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saeb wrote: Sat Jul 08, 2023 8:25 pm
GenieMan wrote: Sat Jul 08, 2023 8:16 pm Hey Saeb,

I am waiting for some aftermarket tailights to arrive, I thought I remember seeing an option in Forscan to enable parklights with DRLs. I might try this to see how the tailights look if they are on with DRLs.

I am wondering if this will cause any damage to the DRL headlights I have installed? since there will be power coming from DRL circuit + Park circuit at the same time. Don't want to risk damaging the headlights.
Totally different circuit. It's just parkers on with DRLS which I enable for client quiet frequently.
Oh I see, I figured that since it looks like park lights is just the same LEDs but at lower brightness, that having both active might hurt it. Sweet then! Thanks for the quick reply.
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I was under the assumption you were using the DRL circuit. Anyway, it should be fine.
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saeb wrote: Sat Jul 08, 2023 10:55 pm I was under the assumption you were using the DRL circuit. Anyway, it should be fine.
Just realise I have posted my reply on the wrong thread.

So just so I’m 100% clear. I have the WildTrak factory DRL lights on my 2015 PX2. I ran the wires from the PCM as per your guide. Is turning on Park with DRL still safe in this setup?

Sorry for repeating myself, just want to make sure neither of us is confused :)
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So I got the lights today, I tested changing the park lamps setting, but it made the front lights be in dimmed mode when DRLs on. Have turned off for now.
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GenieMan wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 4:26 pm So I got the lights today, I tested changing the park lamps setting, but it made the front lights be in dimmed mode when DRLs on. Have turned off for now.
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saeb wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 6:29 am
GenieMan wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 4:26 pm So I got the lights today, I tested changing the park lamps setting, but it made the front lights be in dimmed mode when DRLs on. Have turned off for now.
Send me saved IPC and BCM asbuilts.
Here you go.
ipc asblt.abt
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This is with that option in non-asbuilt disabled btw.
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GenieMan wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 9:35 am
saeb wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 6:29 am
GenieMan wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 4:26 pm So I got the lights today, I tested changing the park lamps setting, but it made the front lights be in dimmed mode when DRLs on. Have turned off for now.
Send me saved IPC and BCM asbuilts.
Here you go.

ipc asblt.abt

bcm asblt.abt

This is with that option in non-asbuilt disabled btw.
Load the below BCM and test. IPC is fine.

If this does not work then I would say to revisit the wiring.


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saeb wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 11:10 am
GenieMan wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 9:35 am
saeb wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 6:29 am

Send me saved IPC and BCM asbuilts.
Here you go.

ipc asblt.abt

bcm asblt.abt

This is with that option in non-asbuilt disabled btw.
Load the below BCM and test. IPC is fine.

If this does not work then I would say to revisit the wiring.



bcm asblt_0366564001689123777.abt
Tried this as built but did not see any change. I then tried changing the Daytime Running Lights Includes Parklamps option and got same behaviour as before.

Photos of the states:

With Daytime Running Lights Includes Parklamps on =
Front DRL dimmed, rear park lights on
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Is there extra wiring I should have done? At the moment, the wiring is factory (afaik) except for me running the 2 wires from BCM plug under steering wheel for the DRLs.

Actually I just went back out and took a video on my phone while changing the setting, and I noticed that my bulbar DRLs are still working as intended (switching between bright DRL and dimmed park), and that bull bar light is wired into the same wires as park and DRL. So I wonder if the ford DRL headlights have something builtin that cuts out bight DRL when there is voltage on park wire??