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It has been a looonnnnnng time coming but today I have received the final production versions of the Lightforce headlight LED for low and high beam.

I will take a closer look in the coming days and likely swap out my pre production units on the weekend.

So far they are the only kits that have the colour temp of 4k which I'm looking forward too.

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Got a set of low beam and high beam LED units gifted to me, straight fit. My XLS has halogen-based headlights (for now) not focused like XLT/Wildtraks so they throw alot of light around with the LED's as they aren't able to shine proper 360degrees. Just as good as the halogens but a white light, gotta adjust mine down cos I'm lighting up peoples interiors when I pull up behind them at night.
Left corner was a pain to access, didn't wanna remove battery. Had to in the end though.
Considering taking the rear covers for the headlight and drilling a hole in them for the wires so I can seal it again (will need to remove plug from wire to do this too) but am a little hesitant about the full sealing due to potential heat and gas buildup during operation. I don't have a temperature gun to read a real-time comparison, ie left LED right halogen, so I can't test it myself.
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Yes, mine are on the shelf. Unfortunatly the colour temp was a lot lower than expected and I may as well have just put halogens back in.

Feedback was sent back to Lightforce and taken on board. I'm currently still using pre production LF 6000k which I'm pretty happy with.

I have run LED for 2.5 years fully enclosed without any issues.
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Sorry to hear. Heard 5800k was daylight or something so I wouldn't wanna go lower than 6000K.
You running LED bulb and ballast or just LED 'bulbs'? If you're running fully closed and haven't had issues, that's good enough for me. Might drill wire holes in backing covers and throw some grommets in to seal from water/dust.
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You should not need to drill anything. I assume the XLS also has caps on the back so the depending on the brand of LED light you have everything should fit inside the housing.

You have to run the module with the LED lights or all the smoke will come out of them. This is a combined voltage regulator/canbus module or ballast as you call it.
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Update : been a while since visited (sorry!) but since,
One of my headlight units died so I got ones with heatsinks and fans.
Didn't fit.
Went to Repco and got the Narva direct fit ones.
Holy crap they bright!
Again, lighting interiors again cos halogen headlights don't focus as well.
Adjusted headlights so far down my high beams basically end 3m in front of me!
Think I'm gonna go for whole new nongen headlights haha!
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Light force have 2 LEDs less than the rest I have tested. Although only 4k temp they align well and are working well.

My originals were pre production light force that I was testing, these were brighter with more LEDs but a second ballast failed so running production units instead.
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Is it legal to replace the stock headlight bulbs with LED's in a 2016 PX2? I find alot of conflicting information when searching.
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Not sure youll be troubled by plod given most new vehicle has leds from the factory. Have had leds in a px2 2016 model for several years without issue. Running the stedi suite of upgrades
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Some months back I had a social chat over a beer with the senior inspector of our local MRS registry at Penrith and his view was ( among other topics ) that if LED bulbs were not OE then they were illegal, this opinion was "confirmed" by my neighbor who is a Snr. Constable in the HWP and happily books anyone driving towards him with poorly or maladjusted headlights - just why this is illegal neither could give me a definite reason other than a possible lack of OE headlight adjustment.
Julie has LED's, high and low beam, as standard on her Skoda Octavia VRS and while they are far brighter than my Wildtrak they are angled far lower and more to the left than they are on my Wildtrak - this is for the low and high beams so maybe that's the reasoning. They are so much brighter so they dont need to be directed so far in front of the vehicle.
I have to say I've often been blinded by oncoming vehicles that have obviously fitted after-market LED's and have not had them adjusted correctly, this issue is exacerbated if the vehicle suspension has been raised, very few owners take this into consideration that even a 50 mm (or in my case a total of 75 mm ) lift also equates to one having to have even the OE headlights readjusted down to be legally compliant.
Either way as 90% of our local badly broken and potholed side streets up here in the mountains do have some form of street lighting and taking into consideration that the use of high beams is illegal while driving in these so called "built-up areas" I wont bother upgrading my headlights, I'll stick with using my dual 200 mm ARB Intensity driving lights on high beam when I'm out at night and in the countryside.
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I fitted LED on Hi & Lo beams but no issues
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ear is higher than the front so points downward any way
I turn night into day with 2x9inch Light Force Genesis, one fitted with Beam Spread (120d)and the other reaching around 1klm down the road
A 4 Row light bar and LED fitted fog lights finish it off, well worth it out where I am right now.
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RossPat wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 4:54 pm I fitted LED on Hi & Lo beams but no issues
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I turn night into day with 2x9inch Light Force Genesis, one fitted with Beam Spread (120d)and the other reaching around 1klm down the road
A 4 Row light bar and LED fitted fog lights finish it off, well worth it out where I am right now.
Again this is yet another reason for the states and territories to have and enforce uniform road rules. RossPat in NSW, Victoria, WA and Qld you could get booked for the location of your LED light bar as its above the horizontal C/L of the headlights. Some years back I received a severe warning for the illegal location of a 30" long LED light bar on my Disco as it was mounted on the roof rack. Rather than incur the vexation of our local plod ( my neighbor :-( ) who pointed out this discretion I removed it. Personally I think that so long as its wired to operate only with the high beams I dont see why its an issue but it is so there you are. Be happy you live in a very different state.
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Has to be below the bonnet line here
It is, but the rear of the bonnet so legal
Cops have never questioned me about it in Vic, WA or NSW, so either they don't care or know the law in SA
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RossPat wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 7:34 pm Has to be below the bonnet line here
It is, but the rear of the bonnet so legal
Cops have never questioned me about it in Vic, WA or NSW, so either they don't care or know the law in SA
If an installation or modification of any kind is legal in the vehicles registered state (SA) then another state ( WA, NSW, etc. ) is unable to issue an infringement even though the modification may be illegal in that state. The issuing of such an infringement would contravene the ambit of the 1901 Commonwealth States act where the legislation's of one state have to be recognized and accepted by all other states. There are of course exceptions, for example just because your vehicle is registered in the NT does not mean you can drive at 130 kph in other states.
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Just my thought's on replacement light globes and the legal aspect is, If the car was ADR complied with XX then only XX is legal.
This theme is pretty standard for all "modifications"
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Correct, that thinking would put most of the mods done illegal
Sold with x suspension but now has y suspension and 3inches taller
Sold with 2 inch exhaust now has 3 inch
Sold with x mapping but now has z mapping creating more power with the same body etc
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RossPat wrote: Fri Jun 03, 2022 6:56 pm Correct, that thinking would put most of the mods done illegal
Sold with x suspension but now has y suspension and 3inches taller
Sold with 2 inch exhaust now has 3 inch
Sold with x mapping but now has z mapping creating more power with the same body etc
Exactly true Ross, which is why I had all the modifications, accessories fitted and suspension alterations carried out on my Wildtrak done by a recognized 4WD company before the Ranger was inspected by the NSWRMS and then initially registered.
At my request they fitted a revised tyre plaque to recognize the replacement tyres and rims from the Ford OE 8.5" x 18" +55 offset rims to 9" x 17" +30 mm offset rims ( 285/70R17 ) and that the rolling diameter had not exceeded 50 mm from the original tyres. I had to supply documentation that the new ROH alloy rims were rated stronger than the Ford OE rims and that in selecting them I had allowed for the increased GVM weight from 3200 kg to 3500 kg and that they had not exceeded the maximum of +50 mm track width and that with the Ford fitted flares they were fully within the outer edges of the bodywork.
Play the game by their rules, keep it legal and very conservative and at all costs avoid standing out in the crowd and you get to sleep easy at night.