UHF and cabin spare accessory power

subzero747 · Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:41 pm

has anyone mounted their UFH behind glove box or hidden away? tips for the install? also antenna option with no front bar

do the XLTs come with spare perm power and accessory power in the cabin or under dash fuse box? didn't want to run power cables from engine bay through fire wall.

cheers guys

Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:00 am

I took power from back of 12 volt socket under Climate buttons as it will stay on with the accessory power and timeout when everything else does. Default is 60min unless the BMS chooses to turn it off earlier.

The other benefit of doing this is that if it is off after timing out then just press the power button on your car radio and it will bring accessories back online and also give power back to the UHF. After this temp turn on the time out will start counting down again.

For 1.5 years I used a magnetic mount antenna on the roof but the main grommet for the engine bay is accessible and has spare slots so running antenna cable is easy.

UHF is behind and beside the glove box ( LH Pillar ). Was I tight fit where I put it but it worked out well. This will all depend on what UHF you actually use too.

Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:50 pm

I installed mine under the driver's seat, along with an additional speaker. Plenty of room and the antenna cable drops out through the grommet in the floor right next to the seat, under the carpet.

I've wired up a bunch of terminal strips behind the driver's side kick panel, one for each of 12v main battery, 12v second battery (in the tub), earth, 12v ignition and dash lights. All relay driven to avoid canbus and overloading issues.

subzero747 · Wed Oct 18, 2017 7:12 pm

is the 60min adjustable? love the idea of hitting stereo power to activate uhf instead of turning on ignition. are the 2 cigs on separate circuits and amp load?

my drivers kick panel is chokers with modules now so no extra room in there now, so the relay runs the ignition 12v and dash lights and the main/aux 12v just straight from their terminals? wouldn't mind seeing the setup was looking at fuse box in cabin or something as was unsure on Ford leaving us any spare power.

Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:09 pm

60min can be changed using asbuilt changes but it will affect all 12volt outlets and the 240v outlet also.

I find the BMS will turn everything off long before the 60 mins saving your battery to allow starting engine again. You will have no problems running a standard 5 watt UHF off the 12 socket but if you are using some thing else with more current draw then trigger a relay from the socket input instead. Have a look at the 12 v socket fuse and see what it rated too then make a decision if you trigger a relay off it or run it direct. Owners manual will show the fuse location.

subzero747 · Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:07 pm

guessing both front 12v sockets are on same fuse and maybe the rear tub also?

I dont use cabin ones only the usb's and the tub one on occasion

yeah 5w so less than half an amp, dont think it will overload a fuse even with a fridge.
project added to list.... arb UBP is currently in undercoat in my garage awaiting black paint just waiting for rain to stop.

kfa1950 · Sun Nov 19, 2017 7:52 am

subzero747 wrote:guessing both front 12v sockets are on same fuse and maybe the rear tub also?

I dont use cabin ones only the usb's and the tub one on occasion

yeah 5w so less than half an amp, dont think it will overload a fuse even with a fridge.
project added to list.... arb UBP is currently in undercoat in my garage awaiting black paint just waiting for rain to stop.

Front acc sockets on different fuses. F10,F16. Rear tray F17. Engine bay fuse box.

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subzero747 · Wed Nov 22, 2017 12:23 pm

thanks have not installed yet but good to know in advance before going on the fuse hunt

RangerNator2 · Sun Dec 03, 2017 10:03 pm

I intend to run a new cable from the Aux battery to the back of the rear seats of my Dual cab, then install a new fuse box there. From there install my radios behind the rear seat as well. My radios have speakers and all controls on the Mic. I bought a LightForce 3 switch panel to then allow me to run the 2 x microphone outlets to them. Antenna Coax is easy to replace for longer runs if needed.

Then I intend to run a wireless switch panel, from where my sun glasses holder is. With a remote wireless controller behind the seat. From there I can then control all of the lights, winch power, other accessories etc.

Why two radios, I hear you ask ? I run 4WD trips for a club here in Sydney. Multiple radios are very useful in these conditions.

If anyone is interested in what I am up to, happy to share and post pictures.

Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:47 pm

RangerNator2 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2017 10:03 pm I intend to run a new cable from the Aux battery to the back of the rear seats of my Dual cab, then install a new fuse box there. From there install my radios behind the rear seat as well. My radios have speakers and all controls on the Mic. I bought a LightForce 3 switch panel to then allow me to run the 2 x microphone outlets to them. Antenna Coax is easy to replace for longer runs if needed.

Then I intend to run a wireless switch panel, from where my sun glasses holder is. With a remote wireless controller behind the seat. From there I can then control all of the lights, winch power, other accessories etc.

Why two radios, I hear you ask ? I run 4WD trips for a club here in Sydney. Multiple radios are very useful in these conditions.

If anyone is interested in what I am up to, happy to share and post pictures.

Always try and share. You may help someone now or you may help someone in the future, showing projects flow give others ideas and ideas leads to something else and.......... its all good. People like picture, well I like pictures.

Tony310864 · Fri Dec 08, 2017 2:37 pm

The more pictures you put up, the less typing you need to do.
A picture is worth a thousand words.

Tony.

subzero747 · Mon Jan 01, 2018 5:53 pm

pics are good especially when trying to explain an install.

Im more interested about your wireless switch panel and controller relay unit? Seen similar ideas before but now ARB think they have invented it with their new link system.

Whiskey312 · Tue Aug 21, 2018 1:41 pm

To access to "fuse box" how do you get to the rear of it? So that I can use one of the spare slots?
T.I.A

Wed Aug 22, 2018 2:16 pm

You don't access the back of the fuse box on the cabin one that is. It is the vehicle body control module and the fuse mounting pins are mounted to the main board of this module.

Searsr · Wed Dec 26, 2018 10:25 pm

saeb wrote: ↑Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:09 pm 60min can be changed using asbuilt changes but it will affect all 12volt outlets and the 240v outlet also.

I find the BMS will turn everything off long before the 60 mins saving your battery to allow starting engine again. You will have no problems running a standard 5 watt UHF off the 12 socket but if you are using some thing else with more current draw then trigger a relay from the socket input instead. Have a look at the 12 v socket fuse and see what it rated too then make a decision if you trigger a relay off it or run it direct. Owners manual will show the fuse location.

Hi where can we change the shut down time of the sockets in forscan please?

Wed Dec 26, 2018 11:30 pm

BCM non abuilt default is 5400 seconds on a 2015 from memory. It will already be showing that. 2017 on 0 seconds.

Moby58 · Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:33 pm

saeb wrote:BCM non abuilt default is 5400 seconds on a 2015 from memory. It will already be showing that. 2017 on 0 seconds.

0 sucks. Can it be changed? Used to a delay on my Territory

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Wed Jul 10, 2019 1:49 pm

Moby58 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:33 pm
saeb wrote:BCM non abuilt default is 5400 seconds on a 2015 from memory. It will already be showing that. 2017 on 0 seconds.
0 sucks. Can it be changed? Used to a delay on my Territory

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Yes, change to whatever you like.

Moby58 · Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:00 pm

saeb wrote:
Moby58 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:33 pm
saeb wrote:BCM non abuilt default is 5400 seconds on a 2015 from memory. It will already be showing that. 2017 on 0 seconds.
0 sucks. Can it be changed? Used to a delay on my Territory

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Yes, change to whatever you like.

Fantastic! Just waiting for your cable to arrive. Should bevthis week. Then I will download Firscan and see what I can screw up. Lol

regards
Alan
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Moby58 · Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:30 pm

OK, which option i need to change? Power point?

regards
Alan
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Brett_32i · Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:37 pm

Any tips to get there centre panel off to access the 12v sockets?

Sat Jul 27, 2019 1:56 pm

Moby58 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:30 pm OK, which option i need to change? Power point?

regards
Alan

BCM non asbuilt, you will probably see a 1 in the power point timeout at the moment.

Oh, I think you have done it now anyway.

Sat Jul 27, 2019 1:56 pm

Brett_32i wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:37 pm Any tips to get there centre panel off to access the 12v sockets?

The front sockets?

Moby58 · Sat Jul 27, 2019 3:03 pm

saeb wrote:
Brett_32i wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:37 pm Any tips to get there centre panel off to access the 12v sockets?
The front sockets?

Yep, but all done now thanks

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Brett_32i · Sat Jul 27, 2019 4:43 pm

ah, I think I found it in the removal.zip

I have to pull off the wings first, then there is a couple of screws.