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EGT Pre 2017

Posted: Tue May 30, 2017 4:06 pm
by saeb
Gerry or anyone else with a MY17.

Next time you put your head under the car can you look at the wiring colours going to the EGT sensor.

I'm certain that Pre 2017 can add the sensor and have it show as a factory fitted EGT sensor.

Re: EGT Pre 2017

Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 9:21 am
by soverton
Just the colours ? See what I can find, MY17 Everest ok otherwise ranger still waiting at ford/arb...

Re: EGT Pre 2017

Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 11:15 am
by GerryP
Stewart, had a look this morning and there's a sheathed, black cable running (to somewhere?) from the actual pyrometer. I was unable to follow it to any sort of connector and without cutting the sheath at the probe, there's no way of seeing what's inside.

If you have any idea as to where this probe lead ends up, I'd be happy to look further mate.

Re: EGT Pre 2017

Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 11:56 am
by saeb
GerryP wrote:Stewart, had a look this morning and there's a sheathed, black cable running (to somewhere?) from the actual pyrometer. I was unable to follow it to any sort of connector and without cutting the sheath at the probe, there's no way of seeing what's inside.

If you have any idea as to where this probe lead ends up, I'd be happy to look further mate.
Ends up at the PCM. PCM has provision for 4 x EGT sensors. Maybe I will get one at a later date and try them all.

Thanks for giving it a go.

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Re: EGT Pre 2017

Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 11:59 am
by saeb
soverton wrote:Just the colours ? See what I can find, MY17 Everest ok otherwise ranger still waiting at ford/arb...
Yes mate just the colours. Everest will be ok.

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Re: EGT Pre 2017

Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 1:03 pm
by ira11y
Hi Stew,

Nov 2015 PX2 XLT
Pyro to plug is Grey/White
Plug to loom is Blue/Brown

Have photos if needed.

Re: EGT Pre 2017

Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 3:29 pm
by saeb
Thanks Michael. We are looking for the colours for the rear EGT sensor. It is behind the DPF on a MY17 Ranger or an Everest as that can be monitored.

But you have come up with a possible win. Blue/Brown appears to be EGT1 so now the difficult part is finding the unknown PID that EGT1 belongs too.

Was this physical check or from wiring diagrams? Need physical checks.

I have hope but I need a few hours for that one. I wish Ford would use the same PID for all their vehicles and its not in their own software either.

The winning colours will be;

EGT1 - Found. EGT on exhaust header.
Blue
Brown

EGT2
Violet/Orange
Blue

EGT3
Yellow/Orange
Grey/Blue

EGT4
Brown/Violet
Yellow/Green

I would bet that Yellow/Orange Grey/Blue is the colours for the rear EGT on the MY17 or Everest, so lets add one to the pre MY17 PCM and then we can look forward to having Pre and Post EGT's through UG, SG and Torque.

Re: EGT Pre 2017

Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 7:21 pm
by ira11y
It was a physical check. Sorry no DPF on my model.

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Re: EGT Pre 2017

Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 7:24 pm
by saeb
Thanks Michael. It gives me hope in finding the undocumented PID.

Re: EGT Pre 2017

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 4:07 pm
by sirocco1699
saeb wrote: Tue Jun 06, 2017 3:29 pm Thanks Michael. We are looking for the colours for the rear EGT sensor. It is behind the DPF on a MY17 Ranger or an Everest as that can be monitored.

But you have come up with a possible win. Blue/Brown appears to be EGT1 so now the difficult part is finding the unknown PID that EGT1 belongs too.

Was this physical check or from wiring diagrams? Need physical checks.

I have hope but I need a few hours for that one. I wish Ford would use the same PID for all their vehicles and its not in their own software either.

The winning colours will be;

EGT1 - Found. EGT on exhaust header.
Blue
Brown

EGT2
Violet/Orange
Blue

EGT3
Yellow/Orange
Grey/Blue

EGT4
Brown/Violet
Yellow/Green

I would bet that Yellow/Orange Grey/Blue is the colours for the rear EGT on the MY17 or Everest, so lets add one to the pre MY17 PCM and then we can look forward to having Pre and Post EGT's through UG, SG and Torque.
AH found it.
Here's extract from 2011 - 2016 wiring manual (cant vouch for it though).
It declares 3 EGT sensors

303-14B-18 Engine Control—3.2L Duratorq-TDCi (148kW/200PS) - Puma, Vehicles With: 6-Speed Manual Transmission - MT82
2012 Ranger (G1425318)

2011.05 wiring manual 303-14B-31 Duratorq-TDCi
Pre DPF Exhaust Gas Temperature Sensor (G1404206)
1 VE747A VT-OG 4TBD 0.5
2 RE747A BU 4TBD 0.5
XW4T-14A464-AHB
C1E747
TO FLYLEAD DPF EXHAUST TEMPERATURE SENSOR UPSTREAM
HARNESS 14K039
Appears to align with EGT2 above (based on the wiring loom color code)


2011.05 wiring manual 303-14B-29 Duratorq-TDCi
Post DPF Exhaust Gas Temperature Sensor (G1404186)
1 VE748A YE-OG 4TBD 0.5
2 RE749A GY-BU 4TBD 0.5
XW4T-14A464-AJB
C1E748
TO FLYLEAD DPF EXHAUST TEMPERATURE SENSOR DOWNSTREAM
HARNESS 14K039
Appears to align with EGT3 above (based on the wiring loom color code)

2011.05 wiring manual 303-14B-29 Duratorq-TDCi
Exhaust Gas Temperature Sensor (G1408808)
1 VE771A BN-VT 4TBD 0.5
2 RE749C GY-BU 4TBD 0.5
XW4T-14A464-AJB
C1E771
TO FLYLEAD EGT3 SENSOR
HARNESS 14K039
Appears to align with EGT1 exhaust header above? (color code does not match either but does contain BN & BU)

Re: EGT Pre 2017

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:39 pm
by saeb
I'm still going through the unknown PIDS, waiting on a test feature that Forscan are implementing for me to start logging them a lot quicker so if it has a PID it will show when I get to it.

For your reference viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1171