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New features coming to Forscan

Changes related to Forscan only. This is not for asbuilt talk.
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Calumgill wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2017 3:50 pm Im unable to see ipc module under configuration and programming tab
I would say you're using an incompatible adaptor. What are you using?
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Stewart,
Just used this new update (first time using FORSCAN) on a 2017 xls ranger.
Got the dual battery mode on, outside temp display on and removed all of the door / seat belt/ key in chimes.
Awesome,
DO you need anything from me to help , have 2017 model xls and a feb 2016 Everest Ambiente.
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300win wrote: Sun Oct 08, 2017 12:09 am Stewart,
Just used this new update (first time using FORSCAN) on a 2017 xls ranger.
Got the dual battery mode on, outside temp display on and removed all of the door / seat belt/ key in chimes.
Awesome,
DO you need anything from me to help , have 2017 model xls and a feb 2016 Everest Ambiente.
That's great.

No all good, appreciate the feedback.
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Everest update has been tested and works. Will post it up tomorrow as it’s a test version.

There are no additional features for anyone else so if you have a working version from the Forscan website then leave it as that.
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Bug fixed, thanks you again :D
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Calumgill wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2017 3:50 pm Im unable to see ipc module under configuration and programming tab
You do not have a compatible obd dongle. Please read the Forscan how to thread.
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Moved to the Forscan Development Thread.
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Do the non as built options have exactly the same effect than doing manually the changes to the asbuilt values?

Just wondering if it is worth reloading all the factory asbult modules and redo all the changes using the non asbuilt selectable options
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rusty-pie wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:26 pm Do the non as built options have exactly the same effect than doing manually the changes to the asbuilt values?

Just wondering if it is worth reloading all the factory asbult modules and redo all the changes using the non asbuilt selectable options
Yes.

It's up to you but you will only be reversing what I have given you then changing it back with non asbuilt which I have supplied Forscan the info for anyway so you will not really achieve anything.
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I notice the beta version has been updated for the Everest fix and is on their website for download so I have removed the test version link.
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saeb wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:54 am
rusty-pie wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:26 pm Do the non as built options have exactly the same effect than doing manually the changes to the asbuilt values?

Just wondering if it is worth reloading all the factory asbult modules and redo all the changes using the non asbuilt selectable options
Yes.

It's up to you but you will only be reversing what I have given you then changing it back with non asbuilt which I have supplied Forscan the info for anyway so you will not really achieve anything.
Cheers, I was trying to work out if the enable/disable options are only a user interface for the asbulit hex code changes, or if the changes are introduced in a different way. I've read in one of your post earlier up in this thread that the changes are made "at bit level" and was wondering what this means exactly.
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There are 8 bits in a byte. Most if not all the asbuilt findings have been shown at the byte level. eg. was 8 now 4, was E now A.

Most single byte changes can modify between 1 to 7 different changes. The amount of changes may be unknown as they could well be behind the scenes and never seen visually. So you may change 8 to 4 but thinking it will add a menu or turn a function on but you could well be messing with up anywhere up to other functions.

Hence why I ended up making some changes with some of my original codes, I had inadvertently turned off the indicator audio increase with vehicle speed while enabling another option.

Forscan had to re write part of their software to work with my last lot of IPC values due to them being at the bit level where previously they had always changed the whole byte as that is what everyone had always supplied. In the end they sorted it and made some other changes to import my supplied information pretty quick.
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saeb wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:48 pm There are 8 bits in a byte. Most if not all the asbuilt findings have been shown at the byte level. eg. was 8 now 4, was E now A.

Most single byte changes can modify between 1 to 7 different changes. The amount of changes may be unknown as they could well be behind the scenes and never seen visually. So you may change 8 to 4 but thinking it will add a menu or turn a function on but you could well be messing with up anywhere up to other functions.

Hence why I ended up making some changes with some of my original codes, I had inadvertently turned off the indicator audio increase with vehicle speed while enabling another option.

Forscan had to re write part of their software to work with my last lot of IPC values due to them being at the bit level where previously they had always changed the whole byte as that is what everyone had always supplied. In the end they sorted it and made some other changes to import my supplied information pretty quick.
I understand the difference between byte and bit, hence my question if the new options are only an user interface for the asbuilt changes or if the make the changes in a different way.

Are you saying that the asbuilt changes are at byte level and the non asbuilt options at bit level? If this is the case, isn’t recommended to revert the asbuilt changes and use the non asbuilt options for the very same reason you have just explained of the risk of introducing hidden concurrent changes with asbuilt changes?
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Yes an interface. Non asbuilt and asbuilt change the same bits it will just depend on where you got the info if it is correct or not.

No I would not revert unless you have been messing with things yourself. Any as built changes I have made are correct, 8 bits equals a byte and that is what you see in asbuilt. All my bits and bytes that I have supplied are correct whether on threads here or elsewhere. I cannot vouch for changes I have not supplied.

As can be seen in the asbuilt section it is at byte level, you can visually see this, but in reality it is changing 8 bits, it has too. If visually it was at bit level then you would have a bit editor. What you don't see in the non asbuilt is the features I supplied in bit level then displayed as a byte in the asbuilt section.

If someone else wants to chime in with a clearer explanation then chirp in. There are a few programmers here after all.
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A quick one for Stewart from a computer illiterate 70 year old Luddite, I've purchased the cable to USB doodah which comes with a CD that I'll be downloading onto a small Windows 10 lap-top computer that I've purchased just for the Ranger, do I need to buy the FORSCAN license as well or will this be included in the package I've purchased ? My second question is I notice in Ebay that there is a WiFi dongle as well as the cable one I've purchased, is one better than the other ?
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Iainboyd wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2017 8:27 am A quick one for Stewart from a computer illiterate 70 year old Luddite, I've purchased the cable to USB doodah which comes with a CD that I'll be downloading onto a small Windows 10 lap-top computer that I've purchased just for the Ranger, do I need to buy the FORSCAN license as well or will this be included in the package I've purchased ? My second question is I notice in Ebay that there is a WiFi dongle as well as the cable one I've purchased, is one better than the other ?
The big question I need to ask is what dongle did you buy? Then I can answer the rest of the questions about the dongle you have or are looking at.

Download Forscan http://www.forscan.org/download.html
Join Forscan Forum http://forscan.org/forum/extlic.php

Once joined and approved got to the last link again and generate the required licence.

For how to install licence visit http://forscan.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=836

All the information is on Forscan's forums so I will not rewite history at this point in time.


If anyone wants a cheap as chips USB dongle the use this wp/product/forscan-usb-dongle/

I have tested and it does work with all modules 100%. It's a cheap way of getting into mods. I have since given mine away to my Ford contact as I have enough hardware options.
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saeb wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:02 pm This will be the final list for the IPC at this stage, couple of tidy up but 99% working. Naming convention should work out as Forscan lists in alphabetical order. There are hundreds more functions but they will only get people into trouble so they will be left out at this stage.

We will not get full instructions for line so I have had them add my own notes, so it hopefully makes it a little clearer.

If you want something else tell me. I'm currently going through the BCM and will put a list up when done.

I may require an XL or XLS user to do some tests with a pre-release so I can amend what will work with the cluster.

Remote start will probably be taken out as our clusters do not have the menu, the Mondeo firmware I flashed did show them though.

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If you have front sensors from factory then there are additional changes in the PAM for them to work in the IPC. You have 2 options, hard button on the console or menus in the IPC, not both at the same time. I have not added to PAM changes to allow this as yet.
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Hi
I received my dongle today, and downloaded forscan 2.3.16 beta
I still can’t work out how to get to the enable/disable menu?
What am I missing?

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Muzza_ wrote: Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:17 pm Hi
I received my dongle today, and downloaded forscan 2.3.16 beta
I still can’t work out how to get to the enable/disable menu?
What am I missing?

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Hi Stewart,

Is there any way or will there be anyway to get the cargo lights to work as cargo light in forscan instead of them being absolutely useless and only working while the door is open and yadda yadda yadda?

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Shane_2 wrote: Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:40 pm Hi Stewart,

Is there any way or will there be anyway to get the cargo lights to work as cargo light in forscan instead of them being absolutely useless and only working while the door is open and yadda yadda yadda?

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No, they are puddle lamps. Well I assume they are puddle lamps on a Wildtrak also, are they in sync with your external mirror puddle lamps?

I assume the Wildtrak still has the button right of headlight switch to turn the rear cargo lamps on and off?
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Has anyone added the mirror puddle lamps?
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Cableguy187 wrote: Sat Aug 11, 2018 11:07 pm Has anyone added the mirror puddle lamps?
Don't think I'm that keen on putting a hole saw through the bottom of the mirror so complete the install.

Feel free to be the first :) There are some clone LED ones on eBay.
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